Legislature(1999 - 2000)

03/23/1999 04:04 PM House HES

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HB 17 - PERS CREDIT FOR NONCERTIFICATED EMPLOYEES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0020                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON announced the next order of business as House                                                                 
Bill No. 17, "An Act relating to the calculation of employee                                                                    
contributions and credited service in the public employees'                                                                     
retirement system for noncertificated employees of school                                                                       
districts, regional educational attendance areas, the Alaska                                                                    
Vocational Technical Center, and the state boarding schools; and                                                                
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0040                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TOM BRICE, Alaska State Legislature, sponsor of HB
17, presented the bill with an amendment.  He said this committee                                                               
moved this bill out last session, but it ran out of time in the                                                                 
Senate Rules Committee and died.  This bill addresses an inequity                                                               
that exists in school districts.  Currently certified employees                                                                 
have a nine-month contract, and get a year of retirement credit,                                                                
but the classified employees, which includes janitors, office staff                                                             
and maintenance workers, also have a nine-month contract but only                                                               
get nine months of retirement credit.  Classified employees are not                                                             
eligible for unemployment insurance either.  This bill would allow                                                              
those employees to voluntarily buy into the PERS (Public Employees                                                              
Retirement System) the extra two or three months of service for                                                                 
retirement.  Currently a nine-month employee has to work nearly 40                                                              
years to reach a 30 year retirement.  Included in this bill are the                                                             
employees of the Alaska Vocational Technical Center, boarding                                                                   
schools, regional education attendance area (REA) schools and the                                                               
amendment includes the special education service agency (SESA).                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL asked if the stipulation for buying in to this                                                              
would change unemployment eligibility.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE said it would not change unemployment                                                                      
eligibility, but it would take the step to address the inequity                                                                 
that exists for these employees.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0300                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WHITAKER commented that it is a good bill but he is                                                              
concerned with the attached fiscal note.  He wondered if it                                                                     
provides additional funding for services that may not have to be                                                                
paid for.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE said Mr. Church from the Department of                                                                     
Administration can probably answer that question.  The amount of                                                                
$72.4 thousand is for computer programming.  That amount is not                                                                 
general fund expenditure; the employees will pay for that computer                                                              
change.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WHITAKER asked for clarification on that point.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0404                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE said the $72.4 thousand is from the revenue                                                                
that the employees would pay into the system, and the cost                                                                      
associated with getting that year of service is a voluntary                                                                     
election by the employees.  They have to take a positive action to                                                              
say they want to pay an increased contribution into their                                                                       
retirement system, so they don't have to work 40 years for a 30                                                                 
year retirement.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL said this does not reflect what could be.  It                                                               
only reflects what it is going to cost to institute this program.                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0549                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE said the bill was drafted in such a way that                                                               
any cost associated with this piece of legislation would ensure the                                                             
actuarial soundness of the PERS funds.  The $72.4 thousand is going                                                             
to come out of contributions by the employees.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0586                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease from 4:12 p.m. to 4:13 p.m.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN asked if this bill provides for future                                                                     
part-time workers.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 0602                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE said if they are eligible, but he believes                                                                 
this is dealing with full-time seasonal employees.  This starts                                                                 
today and goes forward; the employees cannot buy back years.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0670                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RICK HELMS, representing Alaska Public Employees Association                                                                    
(APEA), American Federation of Teachers (AFT), Southeast Political                                                              
Board of Directors, came forward to testify.  He asked the                                                                      
committee for their support on HB 17.  There are over 3600 members                                                              
in APEA and 600 of them are nine-month employees, and this bill                                                                 
would benefit them.  They are also professionals like the teachers                                                              
and administrators.  It takes them 37.5 years to get 30 years of                                                                
service, and passing this bill will fix this injustice.  He urged                                                               
this committee to pass HB 17 this year.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0767                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SANDY PEVAN testified from the Matanuska-Susitna (Mat-Su)                                                                       
Legislative Information Office (LIO) via teleconference.  She has                                                               
worked in her district 21 years and has only 14 years in her                                                                    
retirement.  It takes five years to be vested PERS, but a                                                                       
nine-month school employee has to work 7.5 years to be vested.  She                                                             
urged them to support HB 17.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0829                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DUANE GUILEY testified on behalf of the Special Education Service                                                               
Agency (SESA) from Anchorage via teleconference.  He is in favor of                                                             
HB 17 and offered to answer questions.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON asked him if the amendment which covers SESA is                                                               
satisfactory.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. GUILEY said he hadn't seen the specific amendment but                                                                       
understood what it would do.  It does provide the same opportunity                                                              
for SESA employees as it does to current employees of the REA and                                                               
school districts.  When he was told this amendment was the same as                                                              
the one in the Senate, he said it did accomplish the objective of                                                               
adding SESA to the legislation.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0936                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DON ETHERIDGE came forward to testify on behalf of Public Employees                                                             
Local 71.  They support this bill and would like to see it passed                                                               
to help their members who are school employees.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 0976                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN CYR, President, NEA-Alaska, came forward to testify in support                                                             
of HB 17.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN wanted reassurance that the payments would be                                                              
sufficient to keep the program viable for all those who are already                                                             
in it.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
BILL CHURCH, Retirement Supervisor, Division of Retirement and                                                                  
Benefits, Department of Administration, affirmed that the surcharge                                                             
allocated will cover all of the costs to the retirement system.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Number 1035                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE offered Amendment 1, 1-LS0157\A.1, Cramer,                                                                 
3/22/99, which read:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 3, following "areas,":                                                                                        
          Insert "the special education service agency,"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 9, following "area,":                                                                                         
          Insert "of the special education service                                                                              
          agency,"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 22:                                                                                                           
          Delete "district or"                                                                                                  
          Insert "district, a"                                                                                                  
          Following "area,":                                                                                                    
          Insert "the special education service agency,"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 26:                                                                                                           
          Delete "or"                                                                                                           
          Insert ", a"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 27, following "area":                                                                                         
          Insert ", or the special education service                                                                            
          agency,"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 1:                                                                                                            
          Delete "or"                                                                                                           
          Insert ", a"                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 2, following "area":                                                                                          
          Insert ", or the special education service                                                                            
          agency,"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 6:                                                                                                            
          Delete "or"                                                                                                           
          Insert ", a"                                                                                                          
          Following "area,":                                                                                                    
          Insert ", or the special education service                                                                            
          agency,"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 12, following "area,":                                                                                        
          Insert "the special education service agency,"                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN DYSON asked whether there was any objection.  There                                                                 
being none, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1099                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIRMAN COGHILL made a motion to move HB 17, as amended, with                                                               
the fiscal note and individual recommendations.  There being no                                                                 
objection, CSHB 17(HES) moved out of the House Health, Education                                                                
and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                

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